Дэль, мирных жителей не обижать не потому, что жертв "не так много". Не выворачивай логику :)

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Чего? Где это я увязываю эти две вещи?

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ок. Показалось :)

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К сожалению, это будет случаться все чаще и чаще. Особенно, боюсь, во время всяких олимпиад...

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Иран?

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Иран? МОжно. Хотя я бы начинал с Саудовской Аравии

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Не получится. Нефть + деньги.

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С Ираном та же хрень

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From Swordfish "Someone must bring their war to them. They bomb a church, we bomb 10. They hijack a plane, we take out an airport. They execute American tourist, we tactically nuke an entire city. Our job is to make terrorism so horrific that is becomes unthinkable to attack Americans. "

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That never works.

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Ты не совсем прав, я могу првести примеры. Весь вопрос что именно делать, как именно отвечать.
Впрочем, ваши предложения?

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zitata, ya ne sporyu, utrirovanna
but feeding and clothing them has not helped

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I am growing more imperialistic by the minute. It's a pity the British Empire is no more. Kipling, anyone?

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whats so imperialistic here?

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First, feeding and clothing them may well have prevented many acts of terrorism: when people have something to lose, when they live what they perceive to be a good life, they are less likely to take desperate measures like blowing themselves up in a crowded bus.
Second, there are plenty of them that are still hungry, lack shelter and clothes, and whose desperate situation radicalizes them against the perceived enemy of the heretic West, resulting in their willingness to carry out terror attacks.
Third, there are still a number of people who are radical despite having good living conditions. They care more about politics, ideology and religion than about materialist comforts, and are willing to embrace terrorism: these people remind me of the Russian intelligentsia of the late 19th and early 20th century, who lived well materially but were not happy with their government and social system, and participated in political terrorism. Some of the Muslims in Europe belong to this group of radical Wahhabist bourgeoisie.
Conclusion: feeding and clothing poor Muslims has helped and will help deradicalize many and should certainly continue as a policy objective. Why do you think that the explosions occurred just after the meeting of the G-8 summit, whose major goal was to get funds for Africa, where so many Muslims live and so many terrorist cells have their recruiting and training ground? More aid for Africa will result in less terrorism. But, and this is an important but, it will certainly not eradicate all terrorism, because there will still remain that group of radical Wahhabist bourgeoisie. This group should be fought using all the modern anti-terrorist tools available, together with a strong pro-Western propaganda initiative aimed at the Middle East and Northern Africa.

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Worked with Japan.

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Japan had no real means to retaliate. These people do. And we value our lives and our comfort a lot more than do many of them.

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Какие у этих пипл есть минс? Взорвать еще один автобус?

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Sometimes it works. But then it's called genocide.

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it's called genocide by decendants of the the victors decades after the harm had been removed ...

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and those who "suffered" genocide ain't speaking b/c they are dead

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It is decades after the harm has been DONE. And the real problem is not how its called but what it is.

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"--Damn terrorist!
--I'm not terrorist! I'm counterterrorist!
--I don't care, what kind of terrorist you are!"

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Знаеш, меня сомнения разбирают что при нынешней левизне и мелкожильности Европпы, там хоть кто нибудь, что нибудь серьёзное может сделать.

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Some of them still don't. I think we should take full advantage of that. :)
Well, in seriousness, I think their ability to retaliate is rather limited.

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Я уже побывала в нашем бомбоубежище. Быстро у нас сориентировались.

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ну там благо уже не так много кого осталось бомбить

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Проблема не в том, что мало или много, проблема в том, что бомбить бесполезно. Увы. Разруха в головах от разрухи в городах только усугубляется.

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Нужно наказать Иран.

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Зачем? Иран не организовал атаку в Лондоне, так что не надо с этого делать casus belli. Наказать Иран - это то же самое что сделал Буш с Ираком в результыате 9/11.

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Концепция войны с террором, озвученная в знаменитой речи Буша перед выпускниками военной академии, не предусматривает различия между террористами и теми государствами, которые укрывают террористов. Иран укрывает и спонсирует террористов, следовательно удар по Ирану оправдан.

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По той же логике можно ударить по Сирии, Саудовской Аравии, и другим странам Среднего Востока. Если следовать логике Буша we hit them back first, то мы можем ударить любую страну под предлогом того что мы думаем что та страна хочет нам навредить.

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Совершенно верно.

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Неужели хаос с Ираком недостаточный урок?

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какой хаос?

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Цифры все растут. По новым данным 38 погибших, около 700 раненых.

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